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EURASIA
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The
Political Economics of Secession :
  - Barcelona report
Eurasia Stability :
  - Eurasian economic
integration
  - Small and medium enterprises
in Georgia
Eurasia Leadership Roundtable
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BARCELONA REPORT:
SECOND PLENARY
SECOND PLENARY
Quebec, Northern Ireland, and Scotland
Alain Dubuc,
an economist and Editorial Page Editor of La Presse in Montreal
Canada, delivered the presentation on the secessionist movement
in Quebec. Dubuc stated that global economic changes over the course
of the Quebec separatist movement, which began in the 1960's as
a socialist anti-colonial movement, had profound effects on the
economic issues concerning secession. He said that arguments for
and against secession on the "economic side" changed several times
over the decades. In the 1970's, following the formation of the
Parti Québecois and its rise to power in the province in
1976, the movement matured and began to consider economic issues
in relation to separation. The debate during the 1970's centered
on whether or not continued union with Canada had detrimental effects
on development in Quebec, whether an independent Quebec would be
more likely to possess "all the tools it needs to ensure development
or not." The debate became not about just identity and ideology,
but about the "viability of the Quebec economy" - about whether
or not a small country dependent on government subsidies had a realistic
chance of surviving in the global economy. The fear that Quebec
would not be able to survive and prosper independently was the most
likely reason for the defeat of the first referendum on independence
in 1980. The 1980's saw rapid economic development and the growth
of a new class of French-speaking entrepreneurs. This was one concrete
result of nationalistic policy in Quebec. In addition, changes in
the dynamics of Canadian trade, with the United States replacing
Europe and other Canadian provinces for Quebec's main trading partner,
increased the confidence among the Quebec elite that a small country
may in fact be able to prosper on its own. Suddenly the debate centered
on a cost-benefit analysis for both sides. Pros, such as controlling
your own economic and political "tools" and the enthusiasm linked
to independence, and cons, such as inheriting an enormous amount
of Canada's debt (highest levels in the G7) and disruptions in investment
and capital flows, were weighed. The result was a common perception
that the costs would be overwhelming and the "overall impact" of
secession would be negative on Quebec's development and standard
of living. Dubuc said that the effect of citing "economic costs
was to dampen the enthusiasm that was created by the sovereigntists."
He noted that, as is typical of wealthy democratic states, the Quebecois
were not willing to pay the costs for a formal independent state.
He said, "...even for something as wonderful as creating your own
country, the idea didn't wash."
Dubuc highlighted
the complexity of the debate over Quebec secession. Economic factors
and ideology were used by both sides of the debate to support their
positions. However, the issue did not die in the 1980's. In 1995
the second referendum on independence almost won with a 49.6% final
vote in favor. Dubuc attributed this to the "shock" factor, the
desire for French speaking residents of Quebec to send a clear message
to the rest of Canada that, while they were hesitant to leave, they
insisted on having greater recognition and autonomy as a "special"
unit within the Canadian Federation. The 1995 referendum turned
a previously amicable debate into a serious threat to the economic
and political cohesion of Canada. As a consequence, emotions on
the federalist side rose. Suddenly the prospect of losing 23% of
Canada's GNP and the coveted seat at the G7 table became a stark
possibility. Also, the existence of a bilingual society is important
to most Canadians, if for no other reason than to distinguish Canada
from the United States.
The second problem
Dubuc cited was that following the fallout from the 1995 referendum,
it became clear that most of the economic debate associated with
Quebec secession was in fact political. The questions raised by
Canada were not about currency or debt or ending transfer payments
to Quebec, but about how Canada would come to terms with political
issues such as sharing the Canadian currency and infrastructures,
seeing the Canadian Federation split in two, and the issue of the
Anglophone and Native minorities loyal to Canada in Quebec. Dubuc
stated that the behavior and decisions of the federalists must be
"cast as political assumptions."
Several other
problems arose with the rapid changes occurring in the global system.
Dubuc stated that states continue to lose some sense of relevancy
in the interdependent global system. If this is true, then why should
there be a need for independent statehood? If states are losing
their role as primary international actors, why not remain part
of an established state with a reputation, influence, and power?
This is true also for the identity of states and nations, as cultures
experience increasing homogenization. If Quebec were to split from
Canada, it "would be crushed by global policies and would not be
able to maintain the kind of difference it wants." He cited Canada's
welfare system. If Quebec were to exist as an independent actor
in the global market place, it would be unlikely to be able to protect
such a generous system. Welfare states in Europe can continue, with
modifications and a certain level of reform, because they have the
protection of the European economic and social union to protect
their otherwise cost-prohibitive systems. In this respect, Dubuc
attests, Canada offers some important advantages.
In Dubuc's opinion,
the possibility of Quebec independence is not good. While sovereigntists
periodically command the support of 40-50% of the Quebecois, they
have yet to, even in non-election polls, reach the 50+% necessary
for secession. It appears that most Quebecois favor greater autonomy
within Canada. So, he attributed the continuation of the secessionist
issue in Quebec to the creation of the debate by political elites
in the 1960's as a choice between outright independence or continued
union with Canada. He implied that the elitist construct may have
trapped the Parti Québecois in its own game.
Lastly, Dubuc
touched upon the factors outlined by O'Leary. He said that following
twenty years of linguistic freedom, few French-speaking Quebecois
fear English-speaking Canada. People older than the baby boomers
are the only ones who remember language and employment discrimination
against French speakers and therefore, are the staunchest sovereigntists.
However, Dubuc said, the reality of minority politics is that minorities
are susceptible to paranoia and have a constant fear for their security.
He said that, given the fact that the French-speaking population
in Canada will continue to shrink in relation to its fellow Anglophone
citizens (especially with the high rate of immigration into Canada
from the Third World), some sort of formal constitutional guarantee
of Quebec's French community is necessary to end the acrimonious
and divisive debate once and for all. Jonathan Miller, a freelance
journalist formerly with News Corporation in London, discussed the
dynamics of devolution in the United Kingdom (UK), with emphasis
on Scotland. Miller stated that the creation of regional legislatures
in Scotland and Wales (and Northern Ireland if the 1998 Agreement
is fulfilled) through Prime Minister Tony Blair's constitutional
reform program has brought the identities of the United Kingdom,
Great Britain, and even England into question. What was once "one
of the most stable bastions of political economy anywhere in the
world" is suddenly facing the prospect of dissolution and of becoming
a "neo-federal kingdom" - a concept historically anathema to the
English. The "glue of culture, tradition, and institutions" that
has kept the UK together for centuries is under threat not only
from internal devolutionary forces, but also from unifying forces
from the EU, namely the advent of the euro.
Miller stated
that by allowing the Scots to have their parliament, Blair may have
created a situation where, rather than being satisfied with greater
regional power long promised by the Labour Party, Scotland may seek
to use its new power to push for secession from the UK. Blair's
policy has "opened fault lines in the most basic political geology
of the British Isles." Miller noted that there has been latent resentment
to the English absorption of Scotland in 1707, which was reinforced
by Thatcher economic policies that used Scotland as a laboratory
for economic experiments. He added that the threat of a "red" independent
Scotland during the Cold War prevented any consideration of Scottish
nationalist demands. The end of the Cold War has eliminated this
factor and allowed Westminster to grant Edinburgh limited regional
self-determination. Miller stated that where the process proceeds
from here is an open question.
He said that
UK devolution has created an intriguing paradox: the possibility
of demands for an English parliament. The political reconfiguration
of the UK bargain creates new issues and problems of political structures
and of the very identity of the English. Would Westminster, the
parliament of Great Britain, become the English parliament? How
would London deal with Scottish MPs in both Edinburgh and Westminster,
Ulster MPs in both Belfast and Westminster and so on? The Campaign
for an English Parliament has been established to fight for the
formation of a purely English body to handle domestic and regional
issues, leaving foreign and defense policy to a "reduced" Westminster.
A related consequence is the issue of fear of inequity among the
English in such a federal state. There is a fear among some people
that Scotland could come to dominate England through its culture,
higher oil revenues, and a greater number of MPs. This is an issue
that will continue to arise if devolution proceeds beyond the current
arrangement.
Miller said the
existence of the EU, with a stable currency, security and economic
integration, and its regional development aid, will have two major
effects on the outcome of this embryonic process. First, it has
convinced some Scottish nationalists that it is possible for Scotland
to exist and flourish independent of England. This dynamic was touched
upon in the question and answer session with regard to Quebec too.
Dubuc felt it would be more problematic in the case of Quebec because
(1) Scotland is already part of the EU through the UK and (2) an
independent Quebec membership in the North America Free Trade Agreement
(NAFTA) would depend on American acceptance and Canadian acquiescence.
The existence of the EU, especially the single currency, may "lubricate"
Scottish secession. What, Miller queried, would happen if Scotland
decided to join the euro while London continued to cling to the
sterling? Secondly, the political and economic developments of the
EU have created momentum for the union of the states of Western
Europe, which, when added to prospects for even basic devolution,
could act as an overwhelming centrifugal force pulling the UK apart.
Miller said that confusion and inaction on the part of England will
worsen its chances of halting the process and creating an alternative
formation that preserves the UK, even in a federal format.
Ian Bremmer
Senior Fellow & Director of Eurasia Studies
World Policy Institute
The
Political Economics of Secession :
  - Barcelona report
Eurasia Stability :
  - Eurasian economic
integration
  - Small and medium enterprises
in Georgia
Eurasia Leadership Roundtable
Series
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